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The position of '''Fourth Sea Lord''', until 1904 the '''Junior Sea Lord''' or '''Junior Naval Lord''', was a member of the [[Board of Admiralty]] and the naval officer responsible for supply in the [[Royal Navy]].
  
The position of '''Fourth Sea Lord''', until 1904 the Junior Sea Lord, was a Lord Commissioner on the [[Board of Admiralty]] and the naval officer responsible for supplying the [[Royal Navy]].
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==History==
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Under the provisions of the [[Order in Council of 14 January, 1869]], the '''Junior Naval Lord''' was assigned to assist the [[First Sea Lord|First Naval Lord]] and responsible to the [[First Lord of the Admiralty]] for "the administration of so much of the business as relates to the "Personnel" of the Navy, and for the movement and condition of Your Majesty's Fleet."  Under the [[Order in Council of 19 March, 1872]], which succeeded it he, along with the First Naval Lord and [[Second Sea Lord|Second Naval Lord]], was "to be responsible to the First Lord of the Admiralty for the administration of so much of the business relating to the Personnel of the Navy, and to the movement and condition of Your Majesty's Fleet, as shall be assigned to them or each of them, from time to time, by the First Lord."
  
==Junior Naval Lords==
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In 1904 the title was officially altered to '''Fourth Sea Lord''', and, along with the First and Second Sea Lords, was "responsible to the First Lord of the Admiralty for the administration of so much of the general business connected with Your Majesty's Navy, and with the movement and condition of Your Majesty's Fleet and with the "Personnel" of that Fleet, as shall be assigned to them or each of them, from time to time, by the First Lord."
*Rear-Admiral [[Frederick George Denham Bedford|Frederick G. D. Bedford]], 16 December, 1889.
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*Rear-Admiral [[Lord Walter Talbot Kerr|Lord Walter Kerr]], 25 August, 1892.
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*Rear-Admiral [[Gerard Henry Uctred Noel|Gerard H. U. Noel]], 1 November, 1893.
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*Rear-Admiral [[Arthur William Moore|Arthur W. Moore]], .
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*Rear-Admiral [[John Durnford]], 21 January, 1901.<ref>"Naval & Military Intelligence" (Official Appointments and Notices).  ''The Times''.  Monday, 21 January, 1901.  Issue '''36357''', col B, pg. 6.</ref>
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==Fourth Sea Lords==
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By Order in Council of 21 December, 1906, the emoluments of the Fourth Sea Lord were raised from &pound;1,000 a year to &pound;1,500 a year, in addition to Naval Half Pay.<ref>Order in Council of 21 December, 1906.</ref>
*Rear-Admiral [[Frederick Samuel Inglefield|Frederick S. Inglefield]], 11 February, 1904.<ref>Inglefield Service Record.  The National Archives.  ADM 196/19.  p. 473.</ref>
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*Vice-Admiral [[Alfred Leigh Winsloe|Sir Alfred L. Winsloe]], 7 February, 1907.{{INF}}
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*Rear-Admiral [[Charles Edward Madden, First Baronet|Charles E. Madden]], 25 January, 1910.<ref>Madden Service Record.  The National Archives.  ADM 196/42.  p. 83.</ref>
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*Rear-Admiral [[William Christopher Pakenham|William C. Pakenham]], 5 December, 1911.<ref>Pakenham Service Record.  The National Archives.  ADM 196/42.  p. 13.</ref>
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*{{Com1RN}} [[Cecil Foley Lambert|Cecil F. Lambert]], 1 December, 1913.<ref>''The Naval Staff of the Admiralty''.  [''Naval Staff.'']  p. 125.</ref>
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*Rear-Admiral [[Lionel Halsey]], 4 December, 1916.<ref>Ibid.</ref>
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==Fourth Sea Lords and Chiefs of Supplies and Transport==
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By Order in Council of 23 October, 1917, the office of Fourth Sea Lord received the designation '''Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Supplies and Transport'''.<ref>Order in Council of 23 October, 1917.</ref>
*Rear-Admiral [[Hugh Henry Darby Tothill|Sir Hugh H. D. Tothill]], 31 May, 1917.<ref>''Naval Staff''. p. 126.</ref>
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*Rear-Admiral [[Alfred Ernle Montacute Chatfield, First Baron Chatfield|Sir A. Ernle M. Chatfield]], 18 June, 1919.<ref>Ibid.</ref>
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==Work==
*Rear-Admiral [[Algernon Douglas Edward Harry Boyle|The Honourable Algernon D. E. H. Boyle]], 1920.
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[[John Edmund Commerell|Sir J. Edmund Commerell]] told the House of Commons in 1888 that when he had served as Junior Naval Lord he had had "enough to do" from half ten in the morning to half five or six in the evening.  He complained that he had been left with too many details which "would have been much better not to have been left to the Naval Lords of the Admiralty."<ref>''Hansard''.  [http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1888/mar/12/administrative-system-of-the-admiralty#column_993 HC Deb 12 March 1888 vol 323 cc933-934.]</ref>
*Rear-Admiral [[John Donald Kelly|John D. Kelly]], 1924.
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==Duties==
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{| class="collapsible wikitable collapsed" style="width: 50%"
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! July, 1866.<ref>H.C. 84, 1869.  p. 3.</ref>
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|-
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| Victualling Department.
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|-
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| Store Department.
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|-
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| Gunnery and Returns.
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|-
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| Dockyard Craft.
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|-
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| Transport Service and Emigration Ships.
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|-
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| Passages.
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|-
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| Convict Service.
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|-
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| Appointment of Paymasters, Assistant Paymasters in Charge, Clerks, and Assistant Clerks.
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|-
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| Store Allowances.
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|-
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| Articles on Trial and Experiments (except in Steam).
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|-
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| Salvage of Naval Stores.
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|-
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| Ships Libraries.
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|}
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{| class="collapsible wikitable collapsed" style="width: 50%"
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! December, 1869.<ref>H.C. 84, 1868.  p. 2.</ref>
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|-
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| '''Duties shared with First Naval Lord.'''
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|-
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| Ships in Commission.
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|-
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| Manning of the Fleet.
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|-
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| Distribution of the Fleet.
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|-
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| Marines and Marine Artillery.
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|-
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| Coast Guard, except Pay and Buildings.
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|-
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| Naval Coast Volunteers.
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|-
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| Royal Naval Reserve.
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|-
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| Pensioners, when called out.
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|-
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| Appointments of Commanders of Ships of the Line and Frigates.
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|-
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| Appointments of&mdash;<br>Lieutenants (exclusive of Lieutenant in Command).<br>Staff Commanders.<br>Navigating Lieutenants, &c.<br>Sub-Lieutenants.<br>Midshipmen and Naval Cadets.<br>Paymasters.<br>Assistant Paymasters.<br>Clerks.<br>Clerks.<br>Assistant Clerks.<br>Warrant Officers.
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|-
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| Royal Naval College.
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|-
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| Discipline.
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|-
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| Courts Martial and Courts of Inquiry.
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|-
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| Punishments and Returns.
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|-
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| Removals of "R".
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|-
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| Protection of Trade and Fisheries.
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|-
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| Signals.
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|-
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| [[Royal Humane Society]]'s Medals.
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|-
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| Good Conduct Medals.
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|-
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| &mdash;
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|-
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| Hydrographical Department.
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|-
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| Transport Service.
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|-
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| Conveyance of Troops.
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|-
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| Passages.
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|-
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| Convict Service.
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|-
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| Coaling.
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|-
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| Medical Department.
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|-
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| Hospitals and Hospital Ships.
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|-
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| Appointments of Medical Officers.
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|-
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| Victualling Department.
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|-
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| Full Pay of Officers and Seamen.
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|-
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| Half Pay of Officers of all Ranks.
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|-
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| Table Money of Officers.
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|-
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| Debts of Officers.
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|-
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| Allowances for Lodging and Travelling.
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|-
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| Store Allowances.
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|-
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| Compensation for Losses by Officers and Seamen.
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|-
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| Pensions.
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|-
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| Greenwich Hospital, as regards Officers and Men.
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|-
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| Prize and Admiralty Courts.
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|-
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| Collision at Sea.
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|-
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| General Salvage Questions.
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|-
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| Salvage of Naval Stores.
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|-
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| Pirates&mdash;Bounty.
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|-
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| Pilotage.
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|}
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{| class="collapsible wikitable collapsed" style="width: 50%"
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! December, 1872.<ref>{{TNA|ADM 1/6313.}}</ref>
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|-
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| 1.&mdash;Transport Department.
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|-
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| 2.&mdash;Medical Department.
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|-
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| 3.&mdash;Victualling Department.
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|-
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| 4.&mdash;Hospitals and Hospital Ships.
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|-
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| 5.&mdash;Passages.
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|-
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| 6.&mdash;Convict Service.
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|-
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| 7.&mdash;Appointments of&mdash;<br>Medical Officers.<br>Paymasters.<br>Assistant Paymasters.<br>Clerks.<br>Assistant Clerks.<br>Engineers.<br>Carpenters.
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|-
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| 8.&mdash;Full Pay.
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|-
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| 9.&mdash;Half Pay.
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|-
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| 10.&mdash;Table Money.
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|-
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| 11.&mdash;Store Allowances.
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|-
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| 12.&mdash;Compensations and Allowances&mdash;as regard the Fleet.
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|-
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| 13.&mdash;Debts of Officers and Men.
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|-
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| 14.&mdash;Coaling the Fleet.
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|-
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| 15.&mdash;Ships' Libraries.
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|-
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| 16.&mdash;Prize Money.
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|-
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| 17.&mdash;Dead and Run Men's Effects.
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|}
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{| class="collapsible wikitable collapsed" style="width: 50%"
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! April, 1875.<ref>{{TNA|ADM 1/6313.}}</ref>
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|-
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| 1.&mdash;Transport Department.
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|-
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| 2.&mdash;Medical Department.
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|-
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| 3.&mdash;Victualling Department.
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|-
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| 4.&mdash;Hospitals and Hospital Ships.
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|-
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| 5.&mdash;Passages.
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|-
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| 6.&mdash;Convict Service.
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|-
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| 7.&mdash;Appointments of&mdash;<br>Medical Officers.<br>Paymasters.<br>Assistant Paymasters.<br>Clerks.<br>Assistant Clerks.<br>Engineers.<br>Carpenters.
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|-
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| 8.&mdash;Full Pay.
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|-
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| 9.&mdash;Half Pay.
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|-
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| 10.&mdash;Table Money.
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|-
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| 11.&mdash;Store Allowances.
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|-
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| 12.&mdash;Compensations and Allowances&mdash;as regard the Fleet.
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|-
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| 13.&mdash;Debts of Officers and Men.
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|-
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| 14.&mdash;Coaling the Fleet.
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|-
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| 15.&mdash;Ships' Libraries.
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|-
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| 16.&mdash;Prize Money.
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|-
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| 17.&mdash;Dead and Run Men's Effects.
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|-
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| 18.&mdash;Pilotage.
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|-
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| 19.&mdash;General Salvage Questions.
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|-
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| 20.&mdash;Salvage of Naval Stores.
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|-
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| 21.&mdash;Pirates&mdash;Bounty.
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|-
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| 22.&mdash;Naval Savings Banks.
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|}
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{| class="collapsible wikitable collapsed" style="width: 50%"
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! 1 January, 1904.<ref>''Statement Showing Present Distribution of Business Between the Various Members of the Board of Admiralty, Dated 20th October 1904; and that which it Superseded, Dated 1st January, 1904''. Cd. 2417. p. 5.</ref>
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|-
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| 1.&mdash;Transport Service, including Hired Auxiliary Vessels other than Armed Merchant Cruisers.
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|-
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| 2.&mdash;Victualling Service.
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|-
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| 3.&mdash;Fleet Coaling Service.
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|-
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| 4.&mdash;Passages.
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|-
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| 5.&mdash;Consumable Fleet Stores.
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|-
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| 6.&mdash;Full and Half Pay.
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|-
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| 7.&mdash;Allowances and Compensations&mdash;as regard the Fleet, including Table Money, Prize Money and Bounty for Pirates, Pilotage and Surveying Pay.
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|-
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| 8.&mdash;Debts of Officers and Men.
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|-
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| 9.&mdash;Ships' Libraries.
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|-
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| 10.&mdash;Uniform Regulations.
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|-
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| 11.&mdash;General Salvage Questions and Salvage of Naval Stores.
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|-
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| 12.&mdash;Naval Savings Banks.
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|-
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| 13.&mdash;Freight of Treasure.
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|-
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| 14.&mdash;Naval and Marine Pensions and Widows' Pensions.
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|}
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{| class="collapsible wikitable collapsed" style="width: 50%"
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! 20 October, 1904.<ref>''Statement Showing Present Distribution of Business Between the Various Members of the Board of Admiralty, Dated 20th October 1904; and that which it Superseded, Dated 1st January, 1904''. Cd. 2417. p. 5.</ref>
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|-
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| 1.&mdash;The Transport Service, including Hired Auxiliary Vessels other than Armed Merchant Cruisers. Passages.
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|-
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| 2.&mdash;Entire control of Fleet Coaling and Victualling Services; Naval Stores for the Fleet and for all other purposes, and all questions relating thereto (except as provided for under Controller); Ordnance and Medical Stores, &c., and all questions relating thereto.
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|-
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| 3.&mdash;Full and Half Pay; Allowances and Compensations, including Table Money, Prize Questions, Pilotage and Surveying Pay and Freight of Treasure and all Extra Payments. Debts of Officers and Men, Naval and Marine Pensions and Widows' Pensions. Character, Conduct, and Badge Questions. Naval Savings Banks.
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|-
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| 4.&mdash;Medals. Uniform Regulations.
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|-
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| 5.&mdash;Naval Prisons. Deserters&mdash;Rewards for Apprehension; Removals of "R."
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|-
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| 6.&mdash;General Salvage Money Questions, and Money Demands for Salvage of Naval Stores.
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|-
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| 7.&mdash;Collisions.
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|}
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==Appointments==
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<div name=fredbot:office0 nat=UK otitle="Fourth Sea Lord">
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=John Hay|nick=The Rt. Hon. Lord John Hay|appt=1868|as=Junior Naval Lord|precBy=Sir James Drummond as Fourth Naval Lord}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=John Walter Tarleton|nick=Sir John W. Tarleton|appt=1871|as=Junior Naval Lord}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Frederick Beauchamp Paget Seymour, First Baron Alcester|nick=Frederick B. P. Seymour|appt=1872|as=Junior Naval Lord}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Richard James Meade, Fourth Earl of Clanwilliam|nick=The Rt. Hon. Lord Gilford|appt=1874|as=Junior Naval Lord}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=John Edmund Commerell|nick=J. Edmund Commerell|appt=1879|as=Junior Naval Lord}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Anthony Hiley Hoskins|nick=Anthony H. Hoskins|appt=1880|as=Junior Naval Lord}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Frederick William Richards|nick=Frederick W. Richards|appt=1882|as=Junior Naval Lord}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=William Nathan Wrighte Hewett|nick=Sir William N. W. Hewett|appt=25 May, 1885<ref>Hewett Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/36/1606.|}} f. 602.</ref>|end=18 March, 1886<ref>Hewett Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/36/1606.|}} f. 602.</ref>|as=Junior Naval Lord}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=William Codrington|nick=William Codrington|appt=1885|end=1886|as=Junior Naval Lord}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=James Elphinstone Erskine|nick=Sir James E. Erskine|appt=early 1886|as=Junior Naval Lord}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Charles William de la Poer Beresford, First Baron Beresford|nick=Charles W. Beresford|appt=9 August, 1886<ref>Beresford Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/16.|D7864017}} f. 471.</ref>|end=29 January, 1888<ref>Beresford Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/16.|D7864017}} f. 471.</ref>|as=Junior Naval Lord}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Charles Frederick Hotham|nick=Charles F. Hotham|appt=1888|end=1889|as=Junior Naval Lord}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Frederick George Denham Bedford|nick=Frederick G. D. Bedford|appt=17 December, 1889<ref>Bedford Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/14.}} f. 824</ref>|end=9 August, 1892<ref>Bedford Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/14.}} f. 824</ref>|as=Junior Naval Lord}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Walter Talbot Kerr|nick=Lord Walter Kerr|appt=25 August, 1892|as=Junior Naval Lord}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Gerard Henry Uctred Noel|nick=Gerard H. U. Noel|appt=1 November, 1893<ref>Noel Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/37.}}  f. 956.</ref>|end=12 January, 1898<ref>This, plus some intuition.  Noel Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/37.}}  f. 956.</ref>|as=Junior Naval Lord}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Arthur William Moore|nick=Arthur W. Moore|appt=31 December, 1898<ref>Moore Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/39.}}  f. 915.</ref>|as=Junior Naval Lord|end=21 January, 1901<ref>Inferred from appointment of [[John Durnford]], and Moore's own next appointment being soon thereafter.</ref>}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=John Durnford|nick=John Durnford|appt=21 January, 1901<ref>"Naval & Military Intelligence" (Official Appointments and Notices).  ''The Times''.  Monday, 21 January, 1901.  Issue '''36357''', col B, p. 6.</ref>|as=Junior Naval Lord}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Frederick Samuel Inglefield|nick=Frederick S. Inglefield|appt=11 February, 1904<ref>Inglefield Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/19.}}  f. 473.</ref>|end=7 February, 1907<ref>Inglefield Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/19.}}  f. 473.</ref>}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=Alfred Leigh Winsloe|nick=Sir Alfred L. Winsloe|appt=8 February, 1907<ref>Winsloe Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/39.}}  f. 1432.</ref>|end=24 January, 1910<ref>Winsloe Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/18.}}  f. 541.</ref>}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Charles Edward Madden, First Baronet|nick=Charles E. Madden|appt=25 January, 1910<ref>Madden Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/42.}}  f. 83.</ref>|end=5 December, 1911<ref>Madden Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/42.}}  f. 83.</ref>}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=William Christopher Pakenham|nick=William C. Pakenham|appt=5 December, 1911<ref>Pakenham Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/42.}}  f. 13.</ref>|end=1 December, 1913<ref>Pakenham Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/42.}}  f. 13.</ref>}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{CaptRN}}|name=Cecil Foley Lambert|nick=Cecil F. Lambert|appt=1 December, 1913{{UKNavalStaff|p. 125}}<ref>Lambert Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/42.}} f. 279.</ref>|end=4 December, 1916<ref>Lambert Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/42.}} f. 279.</ref>|note=as {{Com1RN}} from 5 November, 1914}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Lionel Halsey|nick=Lionel Halsey|appt=4 December, 1916{{UKNavalStaff|p. 125}}<ref>Halsey Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/43.|D7576543}}  f. 243.</ref>|end=31 May, 1917<ref>Halsey Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/43.|D7576543}}  f. 243.</ref>}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Hugh Henry Darby Tothill|nick=Sir Hugh H. D. Tothill|appt=31 May, 1917{{UKNavalStaff|p. 126}}<ref>Tothill Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/42.}}  f. 296.</ref>|end=16 June, 1919<ref>Tothill Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/42.}}  f. 296.</ref>|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Alfred Ernle Montacute Chatfield, First Baron Chatfield|nick=Sir A. Ernle M. Chatfield|appt=18 June, 1919{{UKNavalStaff|p. 126}}|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport|end=15 March, 1920<ref>Chatfield Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/43.}}  f. 346.</ref>}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Algernon Douglas Edward Harry Boyle|nick=The Hon. Algernon D. E. H. Boyle|appt=15 March, 1920<ref>Boyle Service Record. {{TNA|ADM 196/43.}} f. 169.</ref>|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=John Donald Kelly|nick=John D. Kelly|appt=1 April, 1924<ref>Kelly Service Record. {{TNA|ADM 196/89.}}  f. 109.</ref>|end=30 April, 1927<ref>Kelly Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/89.}}  f. 109.</ref>|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=William Wordsworth Fisher|nick=William Fisher|appt=30 April, 1927<ref>Fisher Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/44.}}  f. 231.</ref>|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport|end=2 April, 1928<ref>Fisher Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/44.}}  f. 231.</ref>}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=Vernon Harry Stuart Haggard|nick=Vernon Haggard|appt=2 April, 1928<ref>Haggard Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/44.|D7576583}}  f. 238.</ref>|end=21 April, 1930<ref>Haggard Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/44.|D7576583}}  f. 238.</ref>|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=Lionel George Preston|nick=Lionel Preston|appt=21 April, 1930<ref>Preston Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/44/79.|D7576588}}  f. 79.</ref>|end=20 September, 1932<ref>Preston Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/44/79.|D7576588}}  f. 79.</ref>|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{RearRN}}|name=Geoffrey Blake|nick=Geoffrey Blake|appt=1932|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=Percy Lockhart Harnam Noble|nick=Percy L. H. Noble|appt=18 January, 1935|end=September, 1937|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=Geoffrey Schomberg Arbuthnot|nick=Geoffrey Arbuthnot|appt=1 October, 1937|end=1 April, 1941<ref>Arbuthnot Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/91/198.|}} f. 200.</ref>|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=John Henry Dacres Cunningham|nick=Sir John H. D. Cunningham|appt=1 March, 1941<ref>Cunningham Service Record. {{TNA|ADM 196/49/269.|D7576671}}, f. 173.</ref>|end=5 June, 1943<ref>Cunningham Service Record. {{TNA|ADM 196/49/269.|D7576671}}, f. 173.</ref>|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=Frank Henderson Pegram|nick=Frank H. Pegram|appt=1943|end=1944|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=Arthur Francis Eric Palliser|nick=Sir Arthur F. E. Palliser|appt=20 March, 1944<ref>Palliser Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/52/290.|}} f. 663.</ref>|end=1946<ref>Palliser Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/52/290.|}} f. 663.</ref>|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=Douglas Blake Fisher|nick=Sir Douglas B. Fisher|appt=1946|end=1948|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=Herbert Annesley Packer|nick=Sir Herbert A. Packer|appt=1948|end=1950|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=Louis Francis Albert Victor Nicholas Mountbatten, First Earl Mountbatten|nick=The Earl Mountbatten|appt=1950|end=1952|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=Sydney Moffat Raw|nick=Sir Sydney M. Raw|appt=1952|end=1954|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{ViceRN}}|name=Frederick Robertson Parham|nick=Sir Frederick R. Parham|appt=1952|end=1954|as=Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport}}
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{{Tenure|rank=Captain|name=Lawrence Walter Braithwaite|nick=Lewis W. Braithwaite|appt=31 May, 1917<ref>Braithwaite Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/44/504.|D7576642}} f. 507.</ref>|end=July, 1919<ref>Braithwaite Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/44/504.|D7576642}} f. 507.</ref>|note=and for charge of Auxiliary Patrol Service office}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{CommRN}}|name=Thomas Hugh Binney|nick=Thomas H. Binney|appt=13 July, 1919<ref>Binney Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/48/9.|D7603913}} f. 412.</ref>|end=15 March, 1920<ref>Binney Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/48/9.|D7603913}} f. 412.</ref>}}
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{{Tenure|rank={{CaptRN}}|name=Basil George Washington|nick=Basil G. Washington|appt=15 March, 1920<ref>Washington Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/44/514.|D7576645}} f. 517.</ref>|end=31 March, 1922<ref>Washington Service Record.  {{TNA|ADM 196/44/514.|D7576645}} f. 517.</ref>}}
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Revision as of 12:43, 17 December 2018

The position of Fourth Sea Lord, until 1904 the Junior Sea Lord or Junior Naval Lord, was a member of the Board of Admiralty and the naval officer responsible for supply in the Royal Navy.

History

Under the provisions of the Order in Council of 14 January, 1869, the Junior Naval Lord was assigned to assist the First Naval Lord and responsible to the First Lord of the Admiralty for "the administration of so much of the business as relates to the "Personnel" of the Navy, and for the movement and condition of Your Majesty's Fleet." Under the Order in Council of 19 March, 1872, which succeeded it he, along with the First Naval Lord and Second Naval Lord, was "to be responsible to the First Lord of the Admiralty for the administration of so much of the business relating to the Personnel of the Navy, and to the movement and condition of Your Majesty's Fleet, as shall be assigned to them or each of them, from time to time, by the First Lord."

In 1904 the title was officially altered to Fourth Sea Lord, and, along with the First and Second Sea Lords, was "responsible to the First Lord of the Admiralty for the administration of so much of the general business connected with Your Majesty's Navy, and with the movement and condition of Your Majesty's Fleet and with the "Personnel" of that Fleet, as shall be assigned to them or each of them, from time to time, by the First Lord."

By Order in Council of 21 December, 1906, the emoluments of the Fourth Sea Lord were raised from £1,000 a year to £1,500 a year, in addition to Naval Half Pay.[1]

By Order in Council of 23 October, 1917, the office of Fourth Sea Lord received the designation Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Supplies and Transport.[2]

Work

Sir J. Edmund Commerell told the House of Commons in 1888 that when he had served as Junior Naval Lord he had had "enough to do" from half ten in the morning to half five or six in the evening. He complained that he had been left with too many details which "would have been much better not to have been left to the Naval Lords of the Admiralty."[3]

Duties

Appointments

Naval Assistant to the Fourth Sea Lord

Footnotes

  1. Order in Council of 21 December, 1906.
  2. Order in Council of 23 October, 1917.
  3. Hansard. HC Deb 12 March 1888 vol 323 cc933-934.
  4. H.C. 84, 1869. p. 3.
  5. H.C. 84, 1868. p. 2.
  6. The National Archives. ADM 1/6313.
  7. The National Archives. ADM 1/6313.
  8. Statement Showing Present Distribution of Business Between the Various Members of the Board of Admiralty, Dated 20th October 1904; and that which it Superseded, Dated 1st January, 1904. Cd. 2417. p. 5.
  9. Statement Showing Present Distribution of Business Between the Various Members of the Board of Admiralty, Dated 20th October 1904; and that which it Superseded, Dated 1st January, 1904. Cd. 2417. p. 5.
  10. Hewett Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/36/1606. f. 602.
  11. Hewett Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/36/1606. f. 602.
  12. Beresford Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/16. f. 471.
  13. Beresford Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/16. f. 471.
  14. Bedford Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/14. f. 824
  15. Bedford Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/14. f. 824
  16. Noel Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/37. f. 956.
  17. This, plus some intuition. Noel Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/37. f. 956.
  18. Moore Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/39. f. 915.
  19. Inferred from appointment of John Durnford, and Moore's own next appointment being soon thereafter.
  20. "Naval & Military Intelligence" (Official Appointments and Notices). The Times. Monday, 21 January, 1901. Issue 36357, col B, p. 6.
  21. Inglefield Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/19. f. 473.
  22. Inglefield Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/19. f. 473.
  23. Winsloe Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/39. f. 1432.
  24. Winsloe Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/18. f. 541.
  25. Madden Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/42. f. 83.
  26. Madden Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/42. f. 83.
  27. Pakenham Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/42. f. 13.
  28. Pakenham Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/42. f. 13.
  29. The Naval Staff of the Admiralty. p. 125.
  30. Lambert Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/42. f. 279.
  31. Lambert Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/42. f. 279.
  32. The Naval Staff of the Admiralty. p. 125.
  33. Halsey Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/43. f. 243.
  34. Halsey Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/43. f. 243.
  35. The Naval Staff of the Admiralty. p. 126.
  36. Tothill Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/42. f. 296.
  37. Tothill Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/42. f. 296.
  38. The Naval Staff of the Admiralty. p. 126.
  39. Chatfield Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/43. f. 346.
  40. Boyle Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/43. f. 169.
  41. Kelly Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/89. f. 109.
  42. Kelly Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/89. f. 109.
  43. Fisher Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/44. f. 231.
  44. Fisher Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/44. f. 231.
  45. Haggard Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/44. f. 238.
  46. Haggard Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/44. f. 238.
  47. Preston Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/44/79. f. 79.
  48. Preston Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/44/79. f. 79.
  49. Arbuthnot Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/91/198. f. 200.
  50. Cunningham Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/49/269., f. 173.
  51. Cunningham Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/49/269., f. 173.
  52. Palliser Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/52/290. f. 663.
  53. Palliser Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/52/290. f. 663.
  54. Braithwaite Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/44/504. f. 507.
  55. Braithwaite Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/44/504. f. 507.
  56. Binney Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/48/9. f. 412.
  57. Binney Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/48/9. f. 412.
  58. Washington Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/44/514. f. 517.
  59. Washington Service Record. The National Archives. ADM 196/44/514. f. 517.

Bibliography

  • Admiralty. Return "of the Distribution of Business under the Lords of the Admiralty under the Old and New Arrangement for conducting the business of the Department." H.C. 84, 1869. Copy in Greene Papers. National Maritime Museum. GEE/2.
  • Naval Staff, Training and Staff Duties Division (1929). The Naval Staff of the Admiralty. Its Work and Development. B.R. 1845 (late C.B. 3013). Copy at The National Archives. ADM 234/434.

See Also


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Board of Admiralty
Political Lords Commissioners
 • First Lord of the Admiralty
 • Civil Lord of the Admiralty
 • Fourth Civil Lord (1918 – 1919)
Naval Lords Commissioners
 • First Naval Lord (– 1904) • First Sea Lord (1904 – 1917) • First Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Staff (1917 –)
 • Second Naval Lord (– 1869, 1872 – 1904) • Second Sea Lord (1904 – 1917) • Second Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Personnel (1917 –)
 • Third Naval Lord (– 1869) • Third Lord and Controller (1869 – 1872) • Third Naval Lord and Controller of the Navy (1882 – 1904) • Third Sea Lord and Controller of the Navy (1904 – 1912) • Third Sea Lord (1912 – 1917) • Third Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Matériel (1917 – 1918) • Third Sea Lord and Controller of the Navy (1918 –)
 • Junior Naval Lord (– 1904) • Fourth Sea Lord (1907 – 1917) • Fourth Sea Lord and Chief of Supplies and Transport (1917 –)
 • Fifth Sea Lord (1917) • Fifth Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Air Service (1917 – 1918)
 • Deputy Chief of Naval Staff (1917 –)
 • Assistant Chief of Naval Staff (1917 –)
 • Deputy First Sea Lord (1917 – 1919)
Civil Lords Commissioners
 • Additional Civil Lord of the Admiralty (1882 – 1885, 1912 – 1919)
 • Third Civil Lord (1918 – 1919)
 • Controller (1917 – 1918)
Secretaries to the Board
 • First Secretary to the Board of Admiralty (– 1869) • Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Admiralty (1869 – 1904) • Parliamentary and Financial Secretary to the Board of Admiralty (1904 –)
 • Additional Parliamentary Secretary to the Board of Admiralty (1917 – 1918)
 • Second Secretary to the Board of Admiralty (– 1869) • Permanent Secretary to the Board of Admiralty (1869 – 1877, 1880 –)
 • Naval Secretary to the Board of Admiralty (1872 – 1882)